Welcome to Fort Socs, the home of Mandy and Me!


  This is Magic and one  of his many happy riders from past years.   He is on retirement mode now.. but still smiling                                                            
Hi all!  Hope you have had a great 2016.   We have been settling in to a new place near Mcculloch Lake and looking forward to teaching trail guiding in addition to doing trailrides with new and old friends.  Meanwhile, the horses are all doing well. 
      Camping is available at the new place and there are cabins for rent.
   Though we still are not in regular operation, we can take a few riders ..  Advanced notice is preferred and can be discounted if you prepay too.
   We are also able to do pony rides and horse introduction tours for.   250 317 4856 if you fit this description and want to visit.
   For larger groups, you could take turns and switch half way or there is Myra Canyon at http://www.myracanyon.com/
and   Pegasus 

Have a great day!


                                                                          Let the ride begin...

Howdy!   Thanks for visiting the website.   
2503174856 or silverado_socrates@hotmail.com

$60 For an hour/ 110 for 2 hours
Plan for at least half an hour extra so you are not rushed.


The following utube will introduce you to some of the horses and a couple gals that used to come fairly regularly to ride
  Folk from the prairies  visiting their Okanagan family over the summer of 2015.
Kevin and Siggi On Mel and Belle in the spring.   They didn't want the day to end, and look forward to coming up again.  These guys helped fix some problems at the stables, saving me hours of time and frustration, so I was happy to take them for a horseride.   I still owe Kevin because he later helped with my truck too! 

 This is at our location from 1981 until the spring of 2016.. lots of great memories. We have moved near Mcculloch Lake now.

  I am actively working to promote our place to be a  pet peace park in addition to taking rides and doing farm/fort tours   To learn a bit about the Magic Peace Park (named after a horse named Magic- who you can see live at the stables still- he loves smiling for treats- esp apples)- check out this utube
 Ok Hills                       Email Us                                   Mandy & Me                                KelownaTwine Contest                                         Fun Stuff 
if riding more frequently, you may want to learn about our memberships with give you discounts if not free rides when you help, and your friends also get discounts.  Rates are then max $40/hr for the member and $50/hr for guests. Renewals are $50/calendar year. 
 Memberships are for a calendar year. $300 and include 6 transferable rides.
.We have an unlimited riding package that you can ask about after riding a time or two. 
We also do farm tours by appointment.  The fee for these are $50 for up to 5 people, and then $5/person. The tour includes a bit of a trick for treat pony show,  introduction to some other 4 and 2 legged pets, stories, and some presents.   For an extra $20 we will saddle a horse for a short pony ride session or pictures.  You may learn about the chicken who had no feet yet caught a mouse and would lay eggs still! Or the horse who swam the Okanagan Lake  from the Kelowna side to be with the wild horses that used to live in this area.  Or maybe about Ralph the rattlesnake or others that used to live in the orchard near Petterson Rd... all the stories are real- supernaturally so, which is why we call it the Petterson Supernatural horse and farm tour.  
Fort Socs, Home of Mandy and Me Trailriding
Most people have heard of Fort Knox, where gold was kept.  Fort Socs is about developing and preserving the gold within.  The innocence of childhood.. the innocence of our animals in the crazy world we have created could be considered that gold.  How can we preserve the innocence while allowing them/us the freedom to really develop to our true potential? 
         My name is Silverado Socrates.  I welcome you to my Magestically real world of Mandy and Me and my attempts to help folk help themselves to fun fitness and self fulfillment using nature, pets and music.   Do you believe in good over bad?  Do you believe in being happy over sad?   Consider entering our domain and joining our "RCMPP" patrol.   Regular Canadians maintaining peace and parks..hopefully we can help each-other in our quests for gold within thru song, story and a bit of horsing around on the farm. 


I grew up in the Bear Creek / Rose Valley area

and this is where I spent my teenage era.

Instead of cosmetics and guys,

on long walks and runs would go I

with my horses and dogs among the living logs.


Some people think that I am peculiar

but really I feel I am quite secular,

you see….. 


          I have been around the  World and seen a thing or two

          I’ve come to a certain state of mind

          In my reality I love every second of every day

                         there is no room for negativity                  

         I’m a part of your world, you are  a part of mine

          Come on let ‘s learn to work together

                   and start to walk in time


Welcome to my crazy site.   Not sure who will read it, but hopefully it makes sense.  I had a very good childhood and grew up dreaming of going to the olympics and having a horse.  In grade 7 i got my first horse and in grade 9 i got my chance to be in an environment to foster my running dreams.  My high school ( Mount Boucherie) and coaches from Kelowna Track and Field were incredibly encouraging.  In university, i was a carded athlete on scholorships that allowed for me to run, and provide for my food/shelter while going to school.  I was very fortunate, but made my supporters proud with some national and ciau cross country titles as well as a ciau record in the indoor 3000m track and field.   The last national race in 1988, my coach told me later had won it by so far that the girl who was second thought she was first!   He had to tell her twice because she thought he was joking.   I was a machine that season.  I ran the world cross country championship in New Zealand and placed 22nd with a stress fracture by the end of the race.. very frustrating considering it was the year of the olympics.    I was also frustrated with school.   I loved learning,  but didn't really know what i wanted to do or more importantly, how i could make a living with the subjects i liked: animal behavior; conservation and psychology.   Furthermore, my father was wanting me to sell some of my horses and it wasn't fair for him to look after them.   All these things bothered me and though my running dream was near reality, i wasn't sure i really wanted it any more.   I started to shelve that dream and form another of helping people help themselves to fun fitness and self fulfillment with the horses the fulcrum about which it would all evolve.   

         I had done trailrides as a hobby in highschool and in between university years, but now it would be a business.  It started with Mandy and Me Trailriding and Babysitting but the babysitting term was dropped within a season or two as i didn't charge for it and the kids that came ended up helping.  
    I developed the Mandy and Me Mandate of:
                "providing an enjoyable social experience for people of all ages by uniting people and horses in teh trailriding environment and 
               To increase the level of reasoning and understanding between horse and rider so that both parties have a  fun, fulfiling experience.  
              It was a few years before making any profit, but by 20 years of doing it, i had had added 3 acres and was able to take it a little easier in the winters.  I loved the pleasure folk would get riding and seeing the horses and other 4 legged friends in their natural envirionment.  Some routines developed to allow for entertaining of folk b4 and after the rides.  Magic with his wacky smile prompted the logo "Smiles Every Mile", and it is a mantra i try to live by.  
                In the past couple years i had some very serious injuries that made me realize i could die and no one would know why i lived.  I also began to realize that it would be difficult to tell people what the experience was about, but that people that came riding or did the tour did feel it on some level.              . 
       What does it mean when someone can still be doing what they did in high school, over 25 years after graduating and still enjoying it?  I was starting to be able to be less tight with the purse strings for myself and had 3 acres added and the land and house paid for.   I must have been doing something right, yet felt i was running in circles and there was some major changes needing to be made.    the area around is under threat of development on 3 sides.  Where would we ride?  More importantly, who would remember the natural history of the area and the herstory of Mandy and Me.  Did you know that there were once wild horses running in the valley where Mandy and Me resides?  There had been 2 other trailriding business before us also. Many people come up to me and say what great times they have had, but the joy at reading the comments at the end of the day make any long day of work worth the effort.
          Over 10 years ago i had told a lady from Disney that spoke at a chamber luncheon that i believed the characters of Mandy and Me, could be as popular as Disney.   I was taken aback when she replied that she was scared of horses.   That really demonstrated to me the need for city folk to get into the country and the country to get back into the city
  What do you see in the emblem above?  
To me, Silver Shackle Enterprises is  about helping people help themselves to fun fitness and self fulfillment via natural ways.   Mandy and Me may be about the horses, but my greater contribution to nature and society is via Silver Shackle Enterprises.   The olympic dream to me was never about the medal, but the pursuit and satisfaction of knowing you have run faster than you ever thought you could. The pursuit of a dream was what i did with my running, but  you could say that i got scared when it was chasing me back!  Media, recognition was not a comfortable thing for me.  I didn't think it was worth the praise and recognition i got- had not made it to the olympics yet, and was doing it to represent my country. 
    My first international event competing with adults, was a road relay team in Japan.  I learned the term 'Kaizen'.   Kaisen or "improvement"  is not just a word, but a state of mind that i believe can be caught and taught in the right environment.  Ilike to think that I have been setting up that environment.   Both riding horse, and running, give lots of time to think.  In between rides and runs in the okanagan hills, i have read as well as tried many things and tested many theories.  Currently, I have bet the ranch to helping people gain a sense of kaisen in themselves:  in recycling people and things while providing a revenue that all can enjoy.  Many times i have fallen on the trails and in the trials i have made many mistakes.   Despite and because of this, the goal remains true.  Kai
In 2013, I was inducted into the University of Victoria's sports hall of fame.  I read a quote on how records can be broke, its how you live that counts.  I think I have been learning to live more at peace, and hope I help others find that too.  Interestingly, some of a my provincial and national records have not been broken.  
Fort Socs :  Developing the Gold Within
My name is Silverado Socrates.  My former last name was Shackleton.  Ernest Shackleton (1874-1922), was the invincible Antarctic explorer whose fame came from his expeditions -- none of them successful -- to reach the South Pole. 
The text of an ad recruiting crew typically reads:
( the lineup for people willing to go was many more than could possibly join!)
           I may or may not be related to him, but I changed my name to Socrates because i believe that the mind can take you so much further than the land.  Do you believe that people can be recycled and saved?     Do you believe that peace throughout our world could be attained in 10 years or less?  I do, and would like to start developing soldiers of peace in a civilian 'willitary' via the Fort Socs Trading/training posts, funded thru Silver Shackle Enterprises.   I have invested my lifetime of thoughts, energy and spirit, my mind body and soul and will continue to do so.   I am planning to will my land and businesses to my school and hope they will start some tourism and altruism courses. 
Our  MBSS grad class had  2 themes. one was
"go for the gold"..
 i have always taken that to heart.
I didn't reach or get a medal in the '88 seoul olympics
but am working on my Golden Soul
 A Master in the art of living
draws no sharp distinction
between his work and his play
his labor and his leisure
his mind and his body
his education and his recreation
He hardly knows which is which
he simply pursues his vision
of excellence thru whatever
he is doing and leaves others
to determine whether he is working or playing
To himself he always seems to be doing both
Francois Rene Augeste (1768 1848)
I am one Canadian, but one that knows how to live up to my dreams... would love it if some others would be willing  to also invest some time, energy and/or money, into the framework i have researched, developed and lived.  It could start as a ride or even a tour of one of our Fort Socs.   Warning:  there are no free rides at this fort, but we often teach for free. 
About 20 years ago, I was told that the area i am trying to now save, made me sick.. and i was told i couldn't stay there.  I ran away and didn't come back 'til i was told that i could walk and ride in my own country without fear of reprimand or incarcination.  Ironically, i stayed in stayed in town much of 3 years with the hope of saving my country life.  I had hoped to do tours out of 2 hostels,   I had the idea that they would be run in a willatary ( that is right.. willatary) fashion of subsidized housing for people who want to make a difference in the world starting with their home and themselves. Good idea, but nearly all the folk would not pay or help once living in the place! Lost those places, but plan to learn from my mistakes and try again.
 I am hoping to host a hooked on horses program to help some get off their streets or city habits.. but again there will be no free rides and they will earn their riding training.   I am thinking that the same people that rent our hostels, will be investing and staying in the cabins that will be eventually built on the land around Mandy and Me that we will eventually buy.   
There is a principle which is proof against all information
 that is proof against all arguments
which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. 
That principle is contempt prior to investigation.
Herbert Spencer
Fort Socs Trading/Training Posts =  Schools of Thought and Consious Action 
right is might ... we don't need to fight 
Roy Rogers was a hero of mine growing up... we need more heros like him that are willing to decide to do the right thing.  To do good things for the sake of good.  When they see something wrong, are willing to right it... bite the bullet even if it might explode in your face, but imagine ways to work it so that everything is okay.  The good can triumph....if we believe and are willing to work for our beliefs in a sensible fashion. 
I believe Roy's music and spirit fought the "bad" better than his guns,
I believe Canada can show the world how to survive and thrive in this new age economy.
In 2015 we can  showcase the Okanagan Valley as a place of revitalization, peace and positive living.
Please check out some of my songs in fun stuff.  You can also check out the Mandy and Me webpage, and some other of my side bunny and twine saving projects.  
Happy Trails!